The More We Look, The More We Find
That should give them a clue as to where this is all heading. There is a LOT more like the new material below including sentence structure, word choices etc.
For example?
We're pretty familiar with the remarkable chain of IDENTICALITIES between Code and Daughter regarding the gold key, Zurich bank etc. That latter sequence has been around for a while. But when we prepared the latest set of legal filings, John Olsson and one of our other experts looked at it again and found even more. The sequence, below, has the new similarities in bold italics.
In Da Vinci Code and Daughter of God, the following sequence of events takes place precisely as presented in BOTH books and are identical in events, pacing, tone and sequence in both books:
A slain curator of art leaves a gold key,
- Concealed in a work of art,
- Painted on wood.
- That work of art is named for the divine feminine at the center of the book.
- The gold key is not a traditional key that opens a tumbler. Indeed, owing to gold's softness and malleability, a key made of it is patently impractical and, for that reason, not employed by banks, Swiss or otherwise.
- This unique gold key is left (with no instruction) for the book's heroine
- Who is, herself, a symbol of and related to the divine feminine. The gold key allows access (but does not turn a lock) to a safe deposit box in a Zurich bank.
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- At the Zurich bank, the Protagonists are met by an elderly old world Banker.>
- While at the bank, the Protagonists make an error in behavior that could tip-off the bank officials they are not legitimate. But the moment passes.
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- While at the bank, the Protagonists are locked inside the viewing room. [see more on this, below]
- Finally, at the end of the scene, the Protagonists must break OUT of a bank. [Very, very unusual for a thriller].
- The contents of the container holds additional clues to finding the object of their search that send the hero and heroine to a foreign country.
- The object of their search is a set of physical evidence and documents relating to the divine feminine at the heart of the book.
Analysis by John Olsson
In the viewing room at the bank The Da Vinci Code:
"Langdon and Sophie stepped into another world. The small room before them looked like a lavish sitting room at a fine hotel. Gone were the metal and rivets, replaced with oriental carpets, dark oak furniture, and cushioned chairs. On the broad desk in the middle of the room, two crystal glasses sat beside an opened bottle of Perrier, its bubbles still fizzing. A pewter pot of coffee steamed beside it."
In the viewing room at the bank from Daughter of God
"Ridgeway and Zoe looked silently about them. The room was the size of a luxury hotel room and furnished in much the same way. Besides the sofa and chairs, there was a television set, a rack of current magazines, a small computer terminal displaying financial quotes, and a wet bar stocked with liquor. Ridgeway went to the wet bar, set the wrapped painting down on the counter, and filled a tumbler with water from a chilled bottle of Perrier."
Langdon and Sophie = Ridgeway and Zoe
hotel room...lavish = luxury hotel room
cushioned chairs = sofa and chairs
bottle of Perrier = bottle of Perrier
"Interesting you chose Perrier," Olsson wrote. "I would have imagined most Swiss banks would probably have had Henniez, since Perrier, though owned by Swiss company Nestle, is of course French."
Locked inside the viewing room
DoG: "The door slid shut as firmly and solidly as a vault door. Ridgeway tried the knob. It was locked."
DVC: "Leaving, the banker closed the door behind him and twisted a heavy lock, sealing them inside."
Locking someone inside the viewing room is simply NOT done, NOT standard procedure and, as far as I know, simply does not appear elsewhere in any other books.
26 Comments:
The similarities are remarkable. I mean the characters are doing the same things at the same time. I don't recall the Grail discussion happening in DOG in the same way in the same place. Or I just don't recall it.
DoG doesn't have a parallel Grail discussion ... but Supreme Court Justice Learned Hand said (and this is a paraphrase) that "pointing out all the ways in which two works are different is no excuse for plagiarism."
In other words, a burglar can't defend himself by pointing out all the items he did NOT take.
Right. I was just trying for a scene by scene matching, but I didn't recall it. I just read up past the vault scene in Code. Just past the room description.
Vanessa, the GOLD key in DoG is used to open the vault in the salt mine containing the Sophia Passion. It doesn't turn a lock.
It's a slight variation in something that is nearly identical in sequence, content, action, character motivation and wording. Note that the legal standard for infringement is not "identical" but "substantially similar."
There are, of course, the "smoking guns" of repeated mistakes.
And, of course, the gold key sequence represents just one of hundreds and hundreds of identical or near-identical things.
The gold foil covers both locks in my copy of DOG.
Vanessa: remember that the key here is "access."
I was clear that the gold key in both DoG and Code did "not turn a lock."
The ingot allowed access in the bank because it had the account number and then physically activated the Rube Goldberg-like mechanism in the salt mine.
Likewise, in Code, the gold key allows access, but does not turn a lock. It does not unlock a safe deposit box, but allows access by activating the Rube Goldberg-like mechanism in the bank.
Banks do not have any such thing. I think it is clear that the process was an intriguing and attractive one which was simply adapted by Brown.
Vanessa: I need to thank you for raising the question because the parallel with the Rube Goldberg mechanism is something I had not thought of until you brought it up.
Because such mechanisms do not exist, other than my creation first and then in Code, this adds yet one more thing to a sequence that grows and grows.
I'm sure there are more and that good, solid questions such as yours that send us back to the books will continue to turn up even more purloined details.
He clearly adapted that detail and the others. Now the question is: is that allowed among fiction writers?
Vanessa, it's the massively complicated mechanism that delivers the contents of the safe deposit box to Langdon and Sofie in the Zurich bank.
The gold "key" gives them access (like the DoG ingot) but does not actually open the safe deposit box or turn a lock.
Well, Rube Goldberg refers to something that is deliberately overcomplicated, unnecessarily so.
However, we could leave that totally out of the equation and it would not affect the fact that the only way for the entire sequence to show up in DV Code is for it to have been lifted from my work.
Vanessa, I am referring to the sequence of events which begins with a gold key hidden in a painting named after the female divinity at the heart of DVC and DoG ... back in the original post (to which these comments belong) the sequence begins:
"A slain curator of art leaves a gold key,
* Concealed in a work of art,
* Painted on wood."
etc., etc. etc.
no bank, no restuarant or no what-so-ever that respects itself will give you a bottle of Henniez. Especially not in the French part of Switzerland.
So yeah, it's absolutly normal to have Perrier in a Swiss bank, especially in Paris. Go find a Henniez in Paris...
And oh, btw, are the things mentioned in this post the only thing you have against Brown?
Uh, Greg ... There are several hundred pages of infringements comprising several thousand specific instances.
They are listed here and at http://www.davincilegacy.com/Infringement/
You'll see that the the things mentioned in this post simply scratch the surface of the plagiarism.
Also, Zurich is in the German-speaking part of Switzerland where Henniez can sometimes be a matter of regional pride.
A Zurich bank in Paris? Perrier is certainly plausible.
But what we are debating here is the same as if someone decided to make a copy of a Mercedes and foist it off as their own by changing the color, the hood ornament and the seat coverings.
The problem here is only minutia separate the two based on almost identical templates in every way.
Vanessa - please see my post on forensic evidence.
You can focus on one thing out of context and try to argue it to death, but the fact is that the chances of that sequence and the details -- all in context -- appearing by accident is less believable than little green men.
As Mark pointed out, the differences are minutae ... just the sort of things that plagiarists do to try to hide their crime.
Or the occasional zag where a zig was in the first work and the like. I'm just trying to learn the limits here. At least it isn't talking about fanfiction.
hi Lewis,
quite frankly, I just don't see why a guy who wrote angels & deamons, deception point and i think another book before the da vinci code, would copy your book.
what strikes me more is that your publisher decided to republish da vinci legacy after dan brown made the da vinci conspiracy-thing popular...
anyway, i don't have the time to go trough all your arguments, so i'm certainly not saying that you're wrong, but i think it would be good if you could make a webpage showing all the things brown copied from your book!
There are substantial similarities, but the question is how much can another suthor use from another in the way of the plot, chracters, conclusion and premise? The books do read differently, yet the same stuff is occurring even on the same pages in many cases. That seems over the line to me.
Greg:
One of those web pages with comparisions is here:
http://www.davincilegacy.com/Infringement/expert-report.html
This is a small part of the expanded comparisons and data in our legal filings.
And my book, Da Vinci Legack, came out in 1983 -- 20 years before brown.
Legacy.
comparisons.
Gee, I have GOT to learn to his "Preview" before posting. Sorry.
Me too.
Jel: Sorry I've taken so long responding ... I was up in ther Sierras this weekend. Please check your email as I have responded to your request in detail.
Thank you very much for your interest.
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